Vintage Doomsday Deck List Analysis for 2023.09.24
- Eric
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- on Sep 26, 2023
Look what Lorien Revealed has done to Doomsday!
Saturday Challenge
London Vintage Tournament #2 - September 2023,
League
Core and Differences
Main Core: 53 cards Side Core: 8 cards
Core
| Core-Combo (6) 4 Doomsday 2 Thassa's Oracle Counter (7) 2 Flusterstorm 4 Force of Will 1 Mental Misstep Draw (16) 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Dig Through Time 1 Gitaxian Probe 1 Gush 1 Necropotence 1 Ponder 4 Preordain 4 Street Wraith 1 Time Walk Lands/Mana (20) 1 Black Lotus 4 Dark Ritual 8 Fetch Lands 1 Island 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 4 Underground Sea Tutor (4) 1 Demonic Consultation 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor | Sideboard (8) 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Mindbreak Trap 2 Steel Sabotage 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
MaxMagicer - 24th Place Differences
| Main (7) 1 Daze 1 Duress 1 Fetch Land 2 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Negation 1 Sleight of Hand | Sideboard (7) 2 Cut Down 1 Force of Negation 1 Opposition Agent 2 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
Hugh Karp -4th Place Differences
| Main (7) 1 Dress Down 1 Duress 1 Fetch Land 1 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Negation 1 Sleight of Hand 1 Treasure Cruise | Sideboard (7) 1 Cut Down 1 Force of Negation 1 Snuff Out 4 Subtlety |
TeferiBokaer - 5-0 Differences
| Main (7) 2 Daze 1 Fatal Push 1 Spell Pierce 1 Swamp 1 Thoughtseize 1 Treasure Cruise | Sideboard (7) 2 Duress 1 Fatal Push 1 Mindbreak Trap 2 Ray of Enfeeblement 1 Spell Pierce |
Total Differences
| Lands/Mana (3) 2 Fetch Lands 1 Swamp Counters (9) 3 Daze 3 Flusterstorm 2 Force of Negation 1 Spell Pierce Draw (4) 2 Sleight of Hand 2 Treasure Cruise Discard (3) 2 Duress 1 Thoughtseize Removal (2) 1 Dress Down 1 Fatal Push | Draw (2) 2 Duress Creatures (3) 1 Opposition Agent 2 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse Counters (4) 2 Force of Negation 1 Mindbreak Trap 1 Spell Pierce Removal (12) 3 Cut Down 1 Fatal Push 2 Ray of Enfeeblement 1 Snuff Out 4 Subtlety 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
| Main | Averages | Side | Averages |
|---|---|---|---|
| CoreCombo | 6.0 | ||
| Counter | 10.0 | Counter | 2.33 |
| Discard | 1.0 | Discard | 0.67 |
| Draw | 17.33 | AntiArtifact | 2.0 |
| LandsMana | 21.0 | AntiGraveyard | 4.0 |
| Removal | 0.67 | Removal | 5.0 |
| Tutor | 4.0 | Creature | 1.0 |
| Main | Difference | Side | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Counter | +1.60 | Counter | +0.13 |
| Creature | -0.40 | Creature | +0.20 |
| Discard | +0.40 | Discard | -0.13 |
| Draw | -0.07 | ||
| Lands/Mana | -0.60 | ||
| Removal | +0.07 | Removal | -0.20 |
| Tutor | -0.40 | ||
| Other | -0.60 |
Thoughts
As far as the lists go this week, I am curious to see the Basic Swamp in TeferiBokaer's list. I am confused as they didn't even play a third Polluted Delta, but instead an extra Misty Rainforest. Perhaps that was a mistake. I don't like Fatal Push over Dress Down in the main, but there are so many worse choices at the moment. Spell Pierce also feels strong with Shops on the rise as well as these non-Shops decks playing full sets of Wasteland and Urza's Saga. That is no good for Doomsday.
Forty-four (44!) of the top 32 lists from Saturday and Sunday were running four copies of Wasteland. Thirty-six had a playset of Urza's Saga. Who would have thought a five-mana common would have made this possible. Lorien Revealed does a lot of work. Waste something and use an off-colored Mox to get an Underground Sea. Play Saga and rest assured that you'll have an Island next turn. And no need to fetch! It even works as a late-game Ancestral Recall.
Doomsday cannot make as good of use of it as we lack the extra Moxen. Still, I'd rather it over Mishra's Bauble or Treasure Cruise at the moment. That it can get us extra lands without being taxed by Thalia or Spheres, pitches to Force of Will, and can even thin piles, I think it's time I do another Doomsday Prep episode with four copies of Lorien Revealed.
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