Vintage Doomsday Deck List Analysis for 2023.09.17
- Eric
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- on Sep 20, 2023
Tinker Doomsday is back! And I made top 8 in a paper tournament. Which is the bigger news?
Saturday Challenge
Sunday Challenge
Tensaku Cup Vol. 7
Core and Differences
Main Core: 53 cards Side Core: 5 cards
Core
| Core-Combo (6) 4 Doomsday 2 Thassa's Oracle Counter (11) 1 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Negation 4 Force of Will 1 Mental Misstep 4 Street Wraith Draw (12) 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Dig Through Time 1 Gitaxian Probe 1 Gush 1 Necropotence 1 Ponder 4 Preordain 1 Time Walk Lands/Mana (20) 1 Black Lotus 4 Dark Ritual 8 Fetch Lands 1 Island 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 4 Underground Sea Tutor (4) 1 Demonic Consultation 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor | Sideboard (5) 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Mindbreak Trap |
discoverN - 24th Place Differences
| Main (7) 1 Bolas's Citadel 1 Dress Down 1 Fetch Land 1 Flusterstorm 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mishra's Bauble 1 Tinker | Sideboard (10) 2 Cut Down 1 Duress 1 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Negation 2 Ray of Enfeeblement 2 Steel Sabotage 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
discoverN - 11th Place Differences
| Main (7) 1 Bolas's Citadel 1 Fetch Land 1 Flusterstorm 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mishra's Bauble 1 Tinker 1 Treasure Cruise | Sideboard (10) 2 Cut Down 2 Duress 1 Force of Negation 2 Ray of Enfeeblement 2 Steel Sabotage 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
duke12 - 31st Place Differences
| Main (7) 1 Dress Down 1 Duress 1 Fetch Land 1 Narset, Parter of Veils 1 Sleight of Hand 1 Treasure Cruise 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (10) 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Dress Down 1 Duress 1 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Mindbreak Trap 1 Snuff Out 4 Subtlety |
Tsukimi - 1st Differences
| Main (7) 1 Duress 2 Flusterstorm 2 Orcish Bowmasters 1 Portent 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (10) 2 Cut Down 1 Force of Negation 1 Orcish Bowmasters 1 Ray of Enfeeblement 1 Snuff Out 3 Steel Sabotage 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
revenantkioku - 2nd Differences
| Main (7) 1 Dress Down 1 Duress 2 Flusterstorm 1 Mishra's Bauble 1 Spell Pierce 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (10) 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Dress Down 1 Force of Negation 2 Murktide Regent 1 Opposition Agent 1 Snuff Out 2 Steel Sabotage 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
Total Differences
| Lands/Mana (8) 3 Fetch Lands 2 Mana Crypt 3 Watery Grave Counters (7) 6 Flusterstorm 1 Spell Pierce Draw (7) 3 Mishra's Bauble 1 Portent 1 Sleight of Hand 2 Treasure Cruise Discard (3) 3 Duress Creatures (2) 2 Orcish Bowmasters Removal (3) 3 Dress Down Tutors (2) 2 Tinker Other (3) 2 Bolas's Citadel 1 Narset, Parter of Veils | Anti-Artifacts (10) 1 Hurkyl's Recall 9 Steel Sabotage Discard (4) 4 Duress Creatures (4) 2 Murktide Regent 1 Opposition Agent 1 Orcish Bowmasters Counters (6) 1 Flusterstorm 4 Force of Negation 1 Mindbreak Trap Removal (26) 2 Chain of Vapor 6 Cut Down 2 Dress Down 5 Ray of Enfeeblement 3 Snuff Out 4 Subtlety 4 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale |
| Main | Averages | Side | Averages |
|---|---|---|---|
| CoreCombo | 6.0 | ||
| Counter | 8.4 | Counter | 2.2 |
| Creature | 0.4 | Creature | 0.8 |
| Discard | 0.6 | Discard | 0.8 |
| Draw | 17.4 | ||
| LandsMana | 21.6 | ||
| Removal | 0.6 | Removal | 5.2 |
| Tutor | 4.4 | ||
| AntiArtifact | 2.0 | ||
| AntiGraveyard | 4.0 | ||
| Other | 0.6 |
| Main | Difference | Side | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Counter | -1.60 | Counter | -0.05 |
| Creature | +0.40 | Creature | -0.95 |
| Discard | -0.15 | Discard | +0.55 |
| Draw | +0.15 | ||
| Lands/Mana | +0.35 | Lands/Mana | -0.25 |
| Removal | +0.10 | Removal | -0.05 |
| Tutor | +0.40 | ||
| Anti-Artifact | -0.25 | ||
| Anti-Graveyard | +1.00 | ||
| Other | +0.35 |
Thoughts
discoverN took a more relaxed take on the Doomsday Tinker idea. Only Tinker, Bolas's Citadel, and Mana Crypt made the cut. I like this because Citadel is still castable, Crypt can with the Delve spells and the occasional hard-casting of Force of Will, and Tinker still pitches to Force.
Tsukimi, who actually was my only loss during the Swiss at the Tensaku Cup, likely made the call that main Orcish Bowmasters would help with the many Bazaar decks at the tournament. I somehow dodged them all and played against UB Ring for half of my rounds. Only to lose to Jewel Shops having monster hands in the Top 8, but so it goes.
I keep getting asked if Doomsday has any use of Beseech the Mirror. I say no. We lack the tools to guarantee we'll be able to use Bargain, and we don't want Diabolic Tutor. If Beseech has a home in Vintage, it's in a Storm deck.
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