Vintage Doomsday Deck List Analysis for 2021.08.07-08
- Eric
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- on Aug 10, 2021
Less decks this week, and not a single Doomsday list from Sunday's challenge. Have we dropped to Tier 2? Tier 1.5? 1.1?!? No, just lots of BUG and some meta shifting. Let's see those lists.
Saturday Challenge
Preliminaries
League
Core and Differences
Core
| Creatures (6) 4 Street Wraith 2 Thassa's Oracle Sorceries (13) 1 Demonic Tutor 4 Doomsday 1 Gitaxian Probe 1 Ponder 4 Preordain 1 Time Walk 1 Treasure Cruise Instants (20) 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 4 Dark Ritual 2 Daze 1 Demonic Consultation 1 Dig Through Time 3 Flusterstorm 4 Force of Will 1 Gush 1 Mental Misstep 1 Vampiric Tutor | Lands (13) 8 Fetch Lands 1 Island 4 Underground Sea Artifacts (4) 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mystical Tutor Enchantments (1) 1 Necropotence Sideboard (3) 3 Steel Sabotage |
_Tutenji_ (12th Place) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Daze 1 Flusterstorm 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (12) 2 Duress 2 Fatal Push 1 Hurkyl's Recall 4 Leyline of the Void 2 Null Rod 1 Opposition Agent |
sawatarix (17th Place) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Negation 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (12) 1 Chain of Vapor 2 Fatal Push 1 Island 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Pithing Needle 1 Steel Sabotage 1 Thoughtseize |
revenantkioku (3-1) Differences
zachattack23 (3-1) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Daze 1 Flusterstorm 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (12) 2 Duress 3 Fatal Push 2 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Island 1 Library of Alexandria 2 Null Rod 1 Steel Sabotage |
zachattack23 (3-1) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Daze 1 Force of Negation 1 Fetch Land | Sideboard (12) 2 Duress 3 Fatal Push 2 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Island 1 Library of Alexandria 2 Null Rod 1 Steel Sabotage |
ecobaronen (4-0) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Daze 1 Flusterstorm 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (12) 2 Duress 3 Fatal Push 2 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Island 1 Library of Alexandria 2 Opposition Agent 1 Steel Sabotage |
IdraftTheBeatz (5-0) Differences
| Main (3) 1 Daze 1 Flusterstorm 1 Watery Grave | Sideboard (12) 2 Duress 3 Fatal Push 2 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Island 1 Library of Alexandria 2 Null Rod 1 Steel Sabotage |
Total Differences
| Counters (14) 5 Daze 5 Flusterstorm 3 Force of Negation 1 Mystical Dispute Mana/Lands (7) 2 Fetch Lands 5 Watery Grave | Graveyard (8) 8 Leyline of the Void Artifacts (25) 11 Hurkyl's Recall 8 Null Rod 6 Steel Sabotage Discard (13) 12 Duress 1 Thoughtseize Creatures (6) 5 Opposition Agent 1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang Mana/Lands (11) 6 Island 5 Library of Alexandria Counters (1) 1 Mindbreak Trap Removal (19) 1 Chain of Vapor 16 Fatal Push 1 Force of Despair 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Other (1) 1 Pithing Needle |
Thoughts
[[Treasure Cruise]] being part of the Core Deck is quite unique. [[Watery Grave]] seems to be making a larger appearance than before, likely due to BUG's huge increase in the format. The big differences we tend to be seing are in the numbers and kinds of counterspells. While [[Sedgemoor Witch]] has seem to gone away after Modern Horizons 2 dropped, dealing with [[Urza's Saga]] decks has become more of a priority.
The main questions here are how do we want to deal with Shops, do we worry about Bazaar, and what about BUG? I still feel good running [[Hurky's Recall]]. It has value both against Shops and anyone abusing [[Urza's Saga]]. I see the power of [[Null Rod]] but I don't like how it slows us down and does not do a lot against some big threats. Although it does have an interesting use against Ragavan, I don't think we are that worried about that part of that ridiculously powerful card.
I will admit that Tasigur has been lukewarm and [[Force of Despair]] was a waste of a spot.
sawatrix played a [[Thoughtseize]], taking a note from Legacy Doomsday, but I don't know if we get that much more value over [[Duress]]. Then again, it takes [[Endurance]], which is starting to show up more and more in Vintage. The low number of Leylines and only one Tabernacle is a bit of a surprise, but [[Hollow One]], or four as the joke goes, is the bigger problem with those decks. Perhaps we need to lean into something similar to Hurkyl's Recall. Get value over multiple matchups instead of the all-or-nothing spirit of Leyline, which also takes a hit because more Endurance means more cards to pitch to [[Force of Vigor]], which is already being used to snipe Urza's Saga.
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